Showing posts with label Vegifide. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Vegifide. Show all posts

Monday, October 11, 2010

I miss Vegifide

Two years ago, or there about, marked the beginning of the end of the greatest online vegetarian community there ever was. That place was Vegifide.com. Vegifide exemplified everything that was good and bad about vegetarians – from selfless compassion and logically-derived moral positions, to smug self-righteousness and espousals of batshit insane conspiracy theories. People didn’t always get along on that site. We argued, and sometimes things got heated. We also shared ideas, recipes, offered support to each other, and fostered true, genuine friendships. It was a true community. Now people don’t always get along in a community, but in a way that’s what makes it good – that freedom of interaction allows for conflict, but also allows for genuine and honest interaction.

If it weren’t for Vegifide, I very likely never would have gone vegan. Communicating with so many vegetarians made it impossible for me to continue to ignore the truths of animal cruelty endemic in the dairy and egg industries. Several aspiring vegetarians also joined that site and participated to get information and support. This is one reason that the community was so great – we shared information that allowed people to take steps forward on the path of vegetarianism at all different levels. Vegifide, on the whole, influenced a lot of people for the better.

Vegifide also had a HUGE St. Louis presence. I have met some of my best friends from there, people who I hang out with drinking, eating meals, watching football, etc, to this day. (I also met the person who ripped my heart out from there. Can’t win ‘em all I guess!) I don’t want to give the impression that this was only a St. Louis thing – it just so happens that a disproportionate amount of people were from here. Users from all over, from the Pacific Northwest to the UK, were active members of this community.

Vegifide still exists. Technically. I don’t have an account there; I was kicked off, along with several other prominent members in an incident that I won’t get in to too much, other than to say that some users, including me, took exception to some actions taken by the owner. We (the banished members) have our side of the story, and I’m sure the guy that runs (ran?) Vegifide has his. I feel pretty strongly that I was not in the wrong in this situation, and to the owner’s credit, he did offer a full, unconditional and (what I took to be) sincere apology for his actions regarding the mass banning. He welcomed us all back; none of us took him up on it. And it was too late anyway; the damage had been done.

From then on, Vegifide died a very slow, very ugly death. In the following months users steadily stopped coming to the site. The banned users made their “home” on another site (that’s now pretty much dead as well). It was never the same. No vegetarian site that I know of, before or since, has compared to Vegifide. There’s Volentia, and VeggieBoards, but neither are even in the same league.

As I said, Vegifide still exists, but only technically. There was a “hiatus” that lasted several months, and a few months ago the site came back online. I went there today. The last five posts on that site were all trying to sell term papers. That right, the most active current members of Vegifide are spammers for online papermills catering to stupid and unethical college kids. Yeah, the house is still standing, but the yard is completely overgrown, most of the windows have been busted out by kids throwing rocks, and the only people living there are squatters with a heroin addiction. This isn’t the kind of dignified death Vegifide deserves.

My friend Carl has flirted with the idea of helping create a new site, but he has these silly little trivial distractions like a wife, kids, and a mortgage that apparently are more important to him. (Some people just can’t get their priorities straight!) I would love to be involved with something new like that, recruit the old members of Vegifide (the ones I liked at least), and “get the band back together.” I want to recapture what probably can never be recaptured. So I will keep looking. And hoping. But I’m not really expecting anything.

I won’t lie: in the months that passed aftervthe mass banning, watching Vegifide die gave me a certain sense of cruel satisfaction. “Yeah, that motherfucker deserves it,” was my attitude. That was petty of me; again, if it weren’t for Vegifide I might not be vegan right now. I truly believe that Vegifide made the world a better place, as it helped lots of people transition to vegetarianism or veganism. Therefore, considering this, in my opinion the creation of Vegifide was an act of animal rights activism much greater than anything I have ever done. That place was special. And I miss it.

When the schadenfreude wears off, all that’s left is regret.

Monday, September 28, 2009

OMGZ -- an actual entry!!!!11one (I'm going to try to do better guys)

Okay, this blog is not exactly active – that much is obvious. That said, I think that there is still some potential here, and it’s not necessarily time to consign this project to the Failed Blog Graveyard. At least not yet.

“Really, Greg? No updates in a month?” Yeah, that’s not good, I realize. A lot had been going on. Some of it’s personal stuff – making the last couple of updates were really tough because of some stuff going on in my personal life. That happens. Honestly, doing this a little more would probably have been good for me to work through some stuff. But I didn’t. Alas. Also, my computer broke. Maybe I should say “my” computer – it’s really a work computer. I’m lucky enough to have a job that affords me the luxury of use of a pretty nice computer I can take home. But lately I’ve been stuck using the piece of crap I used to write my dissertation in 2005 and 2006. Okay, maybe “piece of crap” is a bit harsh, but I gotta tell ya: half a gig of RAM just doesn’t do what it used to. Well, I got a reasonably functional computer again (one I had loaned to someone), so I don’t have any excuses in that regard anymore.

This is never going to be the Vegan Dad blog (great blog -- go there NOW if you haven't seen it yet), or anything like that. I know this. But I can do better. And I will.

In other events: it seems like Vegifide, the vegetarian social networking site with a lot of St. Louis members, isn’t with us anymore. The site has been down for a while. As of writing this, it says it’s “on hiatus” when attempting to go there. Those of you that follow this blog (all two of you) probably are aware of “The Incident” (of which I was a major character) that happened there about a year ago. I won’t get into it other than to say that many long time users of the site were banned (some for literally no reason), and the common consensus among many of us that used to be on the site is that The Incident was what lead to a drastic downfall in traffic from Vegifide. I’m going to say that I was personally wronged, but I will say that several people were.

So why is this a bad thing? Well, to be honest I do feel a bit of Schadenfreude, but that is admittedly a petty (if natural) reaction. Vegifide did a lot for me personally. I met a lot of truly amazing people on that site – people that remain close, personal, actual face-to-face (irl – omgz!) friends. Also, the people I communicated with, and the info presented on Vegifide is a big part of the reason I went vegan. I won’t give Vegifide actual credit for me going vegan (that would be silly), but it certainly was influential in helping me make what I feel was one of the best personal decisions I have ever made. Finally, the site owner who did the “purging” issued an unconditional apology for his actions. I’m not talking a half-ass “I’m sorry if you think I went too far” b.s. apology, but a full on, 100%, “I fucked up and I’m sorry” apology, where he asked everyone to come back. Most of us didn’t. In fact, I don’t think any of us came back, but at least he made an effort to make amends, and that is worth something in my opinion.

I don’t want to write a premature obituary for Vegifide. Maybe they will come back, and be bigger than ever. But considering the lack of traffic, and the fact that the site has been down well over a month now, I don’t really see that happening. But hey, I’ve been wrong before.

Regarding this blog: I am going to try to make a concerted effort to keep this more active. So I’m going to start a series on this blog, called the Half-Ass Vegan. This will be where I share quick, easy, tasty, and not insanely unhealthy meals, and how to make them. I already have a few ideas, so really all it will take is me actually getting off my lazy ass at least once a week or so. I should be able to manage that.